tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1998528789186246786.post7085116990379864354..comments2024-01-22T03:39:51.819-10:00Comments on Kaneohe Neighborhood Board Blog: Changes at MCBH will impact KaneoheAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17255617705534712261noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1998528789186246786.post-34486503689751331892012-01-04T14:29:54.459-10:002012-01-04T14:29:54.459-10:00Kaneohe Bay is NO place to do this amount of milit...Kaneohe Bay is NO place to do this amount of military aircraft training. I live on the Bay and sometimes literally stand in fear waiting to see if some aircraft is crashing into my house.<br /><br />I have looked up on many occasions and can literally read the information on the bottom of the planes.<br /><br />We cannot have conversations in our house when this starts nor can we hear our televisions at a reasonble volume.<br /><br />Children have a hard time concentrating while doing their homework.<br /><br />My husband was in Iraqi. This Bay is NO place to conduct this type of training. Sure, our troops should have the latest and greatest equipment BUT they should also train in the harshest of conditions to prepare for any conflict; NOT in some neighborhood Bay. This type of aircraft and training would be more appropriate in the deserts of Nevada; not in highly populated areas with families of small children. Let's not try to use "our troops" in this scenerio.<br /><br />Our foundations of our houses are being compromised. The Hilo earthquake I felt in my house that had HECO shut down all electricity on Oahu a few years back was nothing like I feel when the vibration starts from the Marine Corps Base.<br /><br />Our children's hearing is being compromised. My small children cry when some of the aircraft go over our house. They cannot get 8 hours of rest for this constant noise and vibration. It vibrates our beds.<br /><br />Check out the road going off the Marine Base to the "Back Gate". There's a sign posted that says "No formation running past this point prior to 0700. No chanting past this point at any time". Come on!!! You cannot possibly compare singing Marines to aircraft on top of your houses.<br /><br />Supporting our troops does not mean that our children have to be deafened and our property ruined. I HAVE falling rocks on my walls and a broken glass in my window from this.<br /><br />Supporting our troops means giving them the equipment and training they need in the appropriate environment.<br /><br />Try looking out the window at dark and see these "headlights" heading towards your house with the aircraft banking just prior to your rooftop. Try laying in bed at night to the sound of some loud aircraft heading towards your house not knowing if it's crashing.<br /><br />Our nerves are on edge. Our children cry at night.<br /><br />How can anyone say that this is not bringing our property value down. IT DOES!!!<br /><br />Again, this Bay is not the appropriate place to do this type of aircraft training inside a Basin...the noise bounces off the Koolaus.<br /><br />Come on...support our troops??? We're retired military. This has NOTHING to do with supporting our troops. Should we loose our hearing and the hearing of our children when this training can be done more appropriately somewhere else.<br /><br />How can anyone expect us to endure the C-17's from Hickam constantly circling the Bay. Let them train over there. Train on the Big Island at "PTA". The Coast Guard even cirlces in the Bay. This Base has become, or is trying to become, a full fledge airport for all the branches of the service. Who's behind it??? Try researching that one.<br /><br />The Base has "quiet hours" for the people who live there. What about quiet hours for the community??? The Base is not respectful about this at all. There is absolutely NO REASON to test engines in the middle of the night.<br /><br />How about respect for the community. Shame on you!<br /><br />Did someone over there get out of the military and now has a DOD job at the flight line???<br /><br />SHAME ON YOU!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1998528789186246786.post-14772276071125268542011-12-31T16:10:24.665-10:002011-12-31T16:10:24.665-10:00tHANKS for having this blog available!
I am consi...tHANKS for having this blog available!<br /><br />I am considering purchasing a home in your area and am concerned by the amount of aircraft noise currently and potentially created. <br /><br />Would you please describe what it's like to live under the aircraft in your area? Can you describe just how loud 55 OR 65 DNL is?<br /><br />It looks like the noise can occur 24/7/365. When I was touring your area, there happened to be no noise. How do you cope with the noise while you're trying to sleep? How about being out in a boat in the higher DNL noise levels?<br /><br />Thanks for your help.<br /><br />You all look like nice neighbors and my wife and I would like to consider joining your community.<br /><br />Les Rosenthal<br />LesR321@gmail.comUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692555618475496243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1998528789186246786.post-74122164273155970022011-12-22T12:57:25.900-10:002011-12-22T12:57:25.900-10:00If you are the person who has been anonymously dis...If you are the person who has been anonymously distributing flyers in and around the Kaneohe post office please know that we have been contacted by the postal authorities and they have asked that the person stop hand billing and soliciting on their premises. If you are using materials taken from the Kaneohe Neighborhood Board website, we ask that you make it clear that you are not connected with the neighborhood board or soliciting on our behalf. <br /><br />Please also understand it is a Federal offense to place anything other than official mail in a mailbox.Kaneohe Neighborhood Boardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04111729442990216682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1998528789186246786.post-71244598521079823702011-12-18T22:23:20.508-10:002011-12-18T22:23:20.508-10:00Thank you for you comments. We certainly need disc...Thank you for you comments. We certainly need discussion and all points of view. The new aircraft are an important upgrade for the Marines. The fact that there are more aircraft and noisier aircraft will have an impact on the Marine Base neighbors. How bad that impact is depends very much on the person being impacted by increased noise.<br /><br />The people who wrote the response to the DEIS we posted are pointing out what the consider to be valid deficiencies in the EIS.<br /><br />Hopefully, a careful evaluation of the EIS and appropriate community response can improve the document and hopefully minimize some of the impacts.<br /><br />Please understand that the purpose of the Kaneohe Neighborhood Board Blog is to stimulate just this kind of discussion. The Neighborhood Board has not taken a position on the EIS. We do want people to be aware that the EIS comment period ends on 12/27 and time to evaluate the document and submit testimony is short.<br /><br />Be assured that the Neighborhood Board had nothing to do with the flier place in your mailbox.<br /><br />We expect healthy disagreement. We also ask that discussion respect others point of view.<br /><br />We share what we consider to be important information. In this case to notify as many people as possible about the changes proposed for the Marine Base and stimulate discussion and action.<br /><br />Kaneohe people who will be impacted by these changes need to be familiar with the EIS and submit their recommendation to help make the EIS a quality document that will help minimize community impacts.<br /><br />Marine Corps Base Hawaii is a leader in Environmental Management. The have won numerous awards for their environmental work. They are responsive to noise complaints and in most cases I have been involved with when the situation that caused a complaint is understood the complainant is at least more understanding.<br /><br />Please, everyone review the DEIS, evaluate these comments and prepare and submit your testimony. Also, add your comments here so others can benefit from the discussion.Kaneohe Neighborhood Boardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04111729442990216682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1998528789186246786.post-74058424399002295232011-12-18T20:36:49.998-10:002011-12-18T20:36:49.998-10:00WAY TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! Your flyer is chock-fu...WAY TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! Your flyer is chock-full of erroneous claims and arbitrary stats. Property values will not depreciate by 27%...people won't be dropping from cardiac arrest...sleep deprivation, blood pressure, lower reading comprehension...HA!<br /><br />The P-3 Orion, in service since 1962 will be replaced by the P-8 Poseidon. P-3s have reached the end of their airframe fatigue life.<br /><br />The V-22 Osprey will enable our troops to quickly enter and exit combat zones. Less time over combat zones = less time to get shot down.<br /><br />The AH-1 Cobra will provide much needed close air support for the troops on the ground. (The same troops that have sacrificed EVERYTHING for you and I.)<br /><br />I believe that our GREAT neighbors over at MCBH ought to have the latest and greatest tools and equipment to get the job done and to safely return home to their families.<br /><br />Furthermore, since we are on the subject of complaining and you are accusing the DEIS of its validity who exactly from Kaneohe Bay Residents Initiative took it upon themselves to unlawfully help themselves to my mailbox? Normally I could care less about someone throwing a flyer in there but since you are taking it upon yourself to claim shenanigans on the DEIS I think you ought to take a step back and hold yourself accountable to those same standards. Call it what you will...tampering, invasion of privacy...IT IS A FEDERAL OFFENSE!Petenoreply@blogger.com